2004-09-12 [Gone!]: Well......I don't see why you couldn't???....

2004-09-13 [jenoclone1]: i haven't seen princess mononoke yet

2004-09-13 [Gone!]: I have. More than once as well. I don't have it WAY up there on my favorite anime list but it is on there. ^^;

2004-09-14 [jenoclone1]: i've seen castle in the sky, kiki's delivery service, and spirited away though and they were good

2004-09-14 [Gone!]: Castle in the Sky wasn't all that great. Kiki's Delivery Service I absolutely love and adore. Spirited Away is the It anime from Hayao Miyazaki. I just love all the work that man does. That's why I plan to buy everything from him and Studio Ghibli so I can watch them all.

2004-09-14 [inazuma]: You forgot Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro. ;p

2004-09-16 [jenoclone1]: i haven't seen those yet

2004-09-16 [inazuma]: Gooooo forth and see them. Mononoke-hime is like Star Wars in Japan.

2004-09-17 [Gone!]: I didn't feel the need to mention them. My Neighbor Totoro is the first Miyazaki film I've ever seen. Hey, that reminds me. Does anyone think that Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli will ever come out with a series?!

2004-09-17 [inazuma]: Probably not. But that's okay. They're already in the midst of making another movie. ^.^

2004-09-17 [Gone!]: I wonder what kind of series it would be though. It just sort of tugs at the back of my mind.

2004-09-19 [inazuma]: Something good, no doubt.

2004-09-19 [Gone!]: Yeah, but what kind of genre would they write in. Or what kind of characters would they have: animal, anthro, human, elf? I just sort of run a scenario of ideas through my head of how they would go about doing it. Just makes me imagine the greatness of Miyazaki.

2004-09-20 [inazuma]: Usually the main character is human. I've noticed that. Undoubtedly there'd be animals, but probably a fantasy genre.

2004-09-21 [Firnmenelwen]: i love the fantasy genres. they've always been the best in my opinion (besides, of course, the more historical ones- like Kenshin).

2004-09-21 [inazuma]: YYEEEEESSSSSSS! History good. Fantasy good. Bwee.

2004-09-21 [Gone!]: I love historical anime but they're all historical fiction mostly. Samurai weren't nice guys for ex.

2004-09-22 [Firnmenelwen]: yes. the fiction is good too ;)

2004-09-22 [Gone!]: Haylo Firn. ^^

2004-09-22 [Firnmenelwen]: hey ^^

2004-09-22 [Gone!]: Did you earn your blue belt?

2004-09-22 [Firnmenelwen]: hopefully i'll find out tomorrow... the report didn't come in the mail yet >.<

2004-09-22 [Gone!]: I see. So they make you anxious for it to arrive via mail. That must be mind boggling. I know I would probably drive everyone I talked to nuts in wondering if I got it or not.

2004-09-22 [Firnmenelwen]: yeah.... i am goin kinda nuts... it's been a very strange week so far.... well, i've got to go now. gotta finish my algebra II homework!

2004-09-22 [Gone!]: Alright. Pleasure talking to you as usual. ^^

2004-10-14 [Aerith]: ....-.-....and a silence fell over the room....lasting for many days....

2004-10-15 [Gone!]: I need to find out the release date for Ghost in the Shell 2. Oh, and they're developing a GITS video game as well.

2004-10-21 [DevilKid666]: yep 'spose to be good

2004-10-23 [Firnmenelwen]: I just barrowed Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex from a friend. i haven't had time to watch it yet, but i've heard it's really good, so i'm excited :D

2004-10-23 [lil funky squirrel]: I'v seen it and I'm only 12

2004-10-24 [soul_collecter]: to all trigun lovers,prepare to hate bush and if you already hate him prepare to hate him more go to" http://www.georgewbush.com/VideoAndAudio/ " and scroll down until you find "yakuza"

2004-10-24 [lil funky squirrel]: ok thats just weird........

2004-10-24 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: OMGWTF DID HE DO TO WOLFWOOD?!?!?!?!

2004-10-31 [Lor_3242]: .....I hate bush

2004-10-31 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: you're not alone, Loreinthia. you're not alone. *glares at Bush*

2004-11-01 [lil funky squirrel]: lol I don't live in America!but...............if i were to vote for bush or the other guy...who would i vote for........

2004-11-01 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i'd vote 3rd party.

2004-11-01 [Firnmenelwen]: *sigh* politics are never a good thing to discuss.

2004-11-02 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i agree. my brother's for Bush just because his friends are for Bush. --U

2004-11-07 [Gone!]: Has anyone watched "Princess Ai"? It has Courtney Love as the main voice actress. I want to know if it is worth watching or not.

2004-11-08 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i missed Trigun.....and my cat died on Friday...*sob*

2004-11-08 [Gone!]: I'm sorry.

2004-11-08 [Lor_3242]: Thanx White Phoenix, for hatin bush to I mean^^. I like trigun too but ive only seen 4 episodes this girl I kno [dracos8] has seen all of them. I like Inuyasha, Vampire game, Demon Diary, and Ceres.

2004-11-09 [inazuma]: Yay, Vampire Game and Demon Diary are good. And I've seen all of Trigun too.

2004-11-09 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: yep yep Trigun goooooooooood...almost everything on my wish list is Trigun stuff. like plushies. and wallscrolls. and a poster. and the DVD boxed set. you could say i'm pretty much obsessed... XD

2004-11-11 [dracos8]: hey. ^ ^ i see peeps i know. yay. yeah, you did see the first four eps of trigun. i fell asleep, i feel bad now. demon diary is wierd but i finally decided next time i get to the bookstore to get the 2nd one

2004-11-11 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: has anyone ever heard of Full Metal Alchemist?

2004-11-12 [inazuma]: MEEEEEEE!!! It's my favorite anime, and third favorite manga. ^.^

2004-11-12 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ive only seen one episode, but i love it! Ed's so funny! and looks kinda like me...'cept with much lighter hair than me...

2004-11-12 [inazuma]: Oh, well, I won't call you short, then. ^^;

2004-11-12 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: LOL!!!!! XD im 5 foot 6 inches; if that's what you call "short," id like to see what you call "tall!" XD

2004-11-12 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: and Ed reminds me of myself. he's got a short temper (like me), can go from griping about something to hyper in a split second (like me), and and and...uh...idk..... XD

2004-11-16 [Lor_3242]: I just started reading anime a couple months ago so ive never heard of alot of animes. Full Metal Alchemist i heard of beore but nvr read it. I think [dracos8] told me about it

2004-11-16 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ive never read it either, just taped it on accident. but i like it anyways ^^

2004-11-17 [dracos8]: yeah, that might've been me. i've only seen one episode so far though, just last saturdays, missed the first.

2004-11-18 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i saw the first! ^^

2004-11-18 [inazuma]: Seen it all. ^_^ I can't wait until the movie...

2004-11-18 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ive only seen the 1st and 2nd so far...

2004-11-25 [BornFromSilence]: hiya ^_^

2004-11-26 [Firnmenelwen]: Salutations :)

2004-11-26 [BornFromSilence]: lol konnivhiwa *bows* ^_^_^_^

2004-11-26 [dracos8]: ah, konbanwa. o genki desu ka? (oh, good evening. how are you?)

2004-11-27 [Lor_3242]: Wow [dracos8] thought u said u didnt kno alot of japanese....can u teach me?

2004-11-27 [inazuma]: Genki desu, doomo arigatou gozaimasu.

2004-11-27 [dracos8]: (she says: good. thankyou very much) hai. genki desu. (yes, i'm good) i don't know a lot of japanese. i really haven't learned that much. sure i can teach you.

2004-11-28 [inazuma]: That's what happens to me...I say a few words of Japanese in front of my friends from chorus and they mob me, going "TEEACCH MEE!" ;p

2004-11-28 [dracos8]: yeah, my cousin wants to learn, both of them actually. one of my friends little sister wants to learn too. shes greets me in japanese every time i see then says sayonara when i leave, ^ ^ as soon as i learn more i might as well set up a ittle after school japanese class. ^ ^

2004-11-28 [BornFromSilence]: lol i too know jap ^_^ i study it for about four years now ^_^

2004-11-28 [BornFromSilence]: haaaa Konbanwa minna san ^_^ *bows*

2004-11-28 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i dunno much japanese either....wish i did, though. then i could read yaoi doujinshi! XD

2004-11-29 [inazuma]: I've been studying Japanese for a few weeks now, in an actual class. ^_^ It's fun. I've learned hiragana, and just started on katakana.

2004-11-29 [BornFromSilence]: lol ^_^ i remember when we studied that it was so much fun ^_^

2004-11-29 [Lor_3242]: Hey are u talkin about jennys lil sis [dracos8]? What cuzins? [skimple050]?

2004-12-03 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: my school sucks; Japanese is a class that only seniors can take. XP

2004-12-03 [dracos8]: cool, he's said up there. good eveniing everyone. good evening to you to. yeah, skimples is interested, so is his sister [darkhazard] she's never on here though. and yeah, jenny's sis. wait, only seniors can take it? why. thats doesn't even make sense. i'm thinking about asking the principle next year to see if we can have a japanese course. especially since our latin teachers leaving and i doubt we'll find a replacement for her

2004-12-04 [BornFromSilence]: here we can have jap from the begining of high ^_^

2004-12-04 [dracos8]: yeah, i wish we did. i'm a freshman right now, if i can get a whole bunch of people to request for japanese i might be able to get it. and i know quite a few people interested in it.

2004-12-04 [SeishinOkami]: your lucky. the highschool i went to only had french, german and spanish. no japanese....

2004-12-05 [Lor_3242]: at [dracos8] and my scool we can only take itallian, spanish, french, and latin. Hey dracos if you want to ill back u up on gettin the principle to create a japanese course. That would be cool ^^

2004-12-05 [inazuma]: Mm. Only Spanish, French and German at my school too. I'm taking Japanese outside the school. So worth it. ^_^ My teacher rocks!

2004-12-05 [SeishinOkami]: sweet. do u have to go to a college to take it?? (either the university or the college here has that course, but i can't take it this year, not with 6 courses in first semester and 5 in the second, lol)

2004-12-06 [inazuma]: Well, Mio-sensei does teach at a college but not for these classes. These are independant ones.

2004-12-08 [dracos8]: yeah, it would be awesome. mom was the one that originally suggested i go ask the principal. yeah, i probally should try to get a separate class elsewhere but i don't want it to get in the way of my school work unless it is my schoolwork cus i'm gonna devote myself to learning it. besides latin is evil enough right now

2004-12-09 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i don't like latin very much...

2004-12-21 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: hey all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*smiling bigly and does the piece sign while waving*

2004-12-21 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Hey yaaaaaaaaaa!

2004-12-22 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: hey all iz bac!*smiling bigly and waving while dpoin the peace sign*

2004-12-22 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: iz bac again!!!*smiling bigly*

2004-12-22 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: lol! *glomps for no apparent reason*

2004-12-24 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: merry christmas every1*smiles very bigly*

2004-12-24 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: hey all, i drew this japanime guy and he's cool

2004-12-24 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: damn if only my scanner only worked

2004-12-24 [lil funky squirrel]: and don't forget to eat pie!

2004-12-24 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i drew lotsa stuff! like Vash and Wolfwood!

2004-12-25 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: sweet u drew vash??????!!!!!!!!!!!

2004-12-25 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: i usually draw guy i don't no y i've only drawn i gurl

2004-12-25 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: of course i draw Vash! like i said before, i draw lotsa stuff!

2004-12-28 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: that's cool i'm not that good yet though i could draw him if i had a picture of him but it would take a while some people can draw japanime really fast but i can't do it that fast for me it has to b perfect u no*looking at 1 of the drawings on my wall*

2004-12-28 [Zardra]: Wheee... opened myself a fan art gallery to the fan art section ^_^ finally all my anime fan art... err... almost all :-P... is in one blace: danayala ^_^ ... Ryoko! I want to see your Vash!

2004-12-29 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: cool i cant do it on the computer my scanner don't work

2004-12-30 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: hey i'm bac

2004-12-30 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: me too! and Danayala, I'm still scanner-less. but you shall see my Vash piccies eventually...

2004-12-31 [Zardra]: Ryoko! you must get a scanner from somewhere! hehee ^_^

2004-12-31 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Ok Ok! Don't have a cow! I will eventually! Just....go off and...draw some Wolfwood/Vash...while you wait... --U

2005-01-01 [Zardra]: heheheee... yesss =^_^=

2005-01-02 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: lol funfun.....I spent New Year's night and all day yesterday at my friend's dad's house....I just wish one of my friends was more open-minded. --U

2005-01-16 [MACCANATOR]: can i join

2005-01-27 [someelf]: Hewwo o.o

2005-01-30 [*~ChareenViera~*]: Me love Anime!!!

2005-01-30 [someelf]: Yup, I love Anime ^^

2005-01-30 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: don't we all? ^^

2005-01-31 [someelf]: yup ^^

2005-01-31 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: i mean, this is an ANIME fanclub!

2005-02-01 [someelf]: yup :p

2005-02-19 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Oh! I must tell you about my latest anime obsessions! My friend recently introduced me to "Boogiepop Phantom" and "Get Backers"! And we watched the Japanese dubbed versions of "Card Captor Sakura" (WAAAAAY better than the American dubbed!) and "Naruto"! ^^

2005-02-19 [Zardra]: I always like the japanese versions better, japanese sounds so beautiful ^_^

2005-02-22 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Oooooh yesh! ^^ And I'm working on another yaoi piccie....just has Vash, so far....but I adore his expression in the pic! And his legs..... X3

2005-02-25 [dracos8]: i always listen to my stuff in japanese, ^ ^ it is pretty, besides i'm gonna learn the language someday. some that picture with vash, who else is in it?

2005-02-25 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ......Wolfwood shall be in it eventually... X3

2005-02-27 [dracos8]: ah, okies.

2005-02-27 [dracos8]: ah, okies. ^ ^ you know there's a wolfwood fanclub. it doesn't have many members yet. yer welcome to join. wolfwood fans united

2005-02-28 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ookies! hmmm...I oughta make a WV fanclub...

2005-02-28 [Zardra]: YES! W/V fanclub! ... I would join! ^_^

2005-02-28 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Well, I know you would! ^^ *hugs*

2005-03-01 [dracos8]: wow, thats amazing. you should post the story yer writing up there when you get it finished. i'd join. ^ ^

2005-03-01 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: uhhhh...it's not a story, it's fanart...

2005-03-01 [Zardra]: ^_^ *hugs back* me want to see fanart too! ^_^

2005-03-01 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ^^ I'll show you eventually! ^^

2005-03-02 [~Legato~]: Legato Scares Me!, if you think Legato from Trigun is hot, u should join, if you enjoy being creeped out by him you should join, if you just love Legato Bluesummers YOU SHOULD JOIN!!!

2005-03-02 [~Legato~]: Join my wiki!

2005-03-05 [dracos8]: bleh. ^ ^;;; sorry. yeah, that'd be me not paying attention. i was just reading a friends story so i think i got confused when i was typing. my bad.

2005-03-09 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: i'm bac what's up every1 ? oooohhhh i love hugs, hugs all around*goes around hugging every1*

2005-03-12 [dracos8]: *hugs back* i have no idea who you are. but i'll hug you anyway

2005-03-16 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: okie lol !* pulls out a bottle of vodka* suppose u want to join me?

2005-03-16 [dracos8]: Oo ... i get vodka if i hug someone .... COOL!!

2005-03-24 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: lol no u don't have to hug me to get some vodka u could just ask but i do like the hugging *giggles*

2005-03-24 [dracos8]: o well. we all like hugs. *hugz* now gimme that vodka. *has no head for drink*

2005-03-26 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: I LUV BOOGIEPOP PHANTOM!!!!! ^^

2005-03-28 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: lol

2005-03-31 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Really! It's awesome! Disturbing and gorey, but AWESOME!!! ^^

2005-04-06 [whitewolf19]: where can i sign up for this group ?

2005-04-08 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: go to edit this page and put ur name on it and a little something bout urself i geuss

2005-04-11 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: hhhmmmm...

2005-04-12 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: hello, Wolf.

2005-04-13 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: who me?*points finger at myself*

2005-04-13 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: woah wat happened to the banner?!

2005-04-14 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Yah, u.

2005-04-15 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: ooh *giggles to self* hi phoenix!!!*huggles*

2005-04-21 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: *glomps* What're your fav animes?

2005-04-22 [Keeper of Darkness]: Rurouno Kenshin, D•N•ANGEL, Fruits Basket and Witch Hunter Robin I'd say

2005-04-22 [inazuma]: Full Metal Alchemist, any Hayao Miyazaki movie. I've fallen on the side of preferring the manga to a lot of animes, though.

2005-04-22 [Keeper of Darkness]: the mangas usually tell you more/develpoe the caharacters more/are longer than the show but the shows always fun too

2005-04-23 [inazuma]: Inuyasha, for example. ;)

2005-04-23 [Keeper of Darkness]: DNAngel and Fruits basket

2005-04-23 [Keeper of Darkness]: Rurouni Kenshin has pages in the manga that tell you about the historical events the story's based on

2005-04-24 [inazuma]: Yep, I love Rurouni Kenshin. It's my favorite manga. Not, however, my favorite anime (though the Saito/Kenshin fight is SO SO GOOD).

2005-04-25 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: I've only read the 1st Rurouni Kenshin, but I like it. My main obsessions now are Trigun and Tsubasa (manga-wise). I don't really watch a lot of TV; I go for the anime DVDs. ^^

2005-04-26 [inazuma]: Indeed. I have no channels with anime on them, so it's either buy them or not see them. :(

2005-04-26 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Ah. I have a little advice for you: DON'T WATCH ONE PIECE IN ENGLISH. They butchered the names.

2005-04-26 [SeishinOkami]: unfortunately they do that with a lot of animes. even in shaman king and inu-yasha some names were changed

2005-04-27 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Yeah. I mean, "Zolo"?!?!?! "Zoro" sounds waaaaaay better!!!

2005-04-27 [SeishinOkami]: I guess they weren't allowed to use that name. Others from the ones that I mention were Manta - Mortimer, Ren - Len, Kiarra - Killala. I haven't seen the TV show really for One Piece since it doesn't look as good as the manga is. Did they change any other names?

2005-04-28 [Keeper of Darkness]: ^_^ Shippou and Shippo

2005-04-28 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: You mean Rin from InuYasha? Yeah; I was thinking that it was Lin 'cuz the Japanese pronounce their L's as R's. So Lin or Rin; it'd be the same either way.

2005-04-28 [SeishinOkami]: Ren (Shaman King) they call him Len in the anime series but in the manga it is Ren... the Inu-Yasha manga that I have read has had Shippo spelt Shippo

2005-04-29 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ah.

2005-04-29 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: hmm my favs. r inuyasja, full metal alchemist, witch hunter robin, steel angles, and more!

2005-04-29 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: *think to self* hmmi guess i don't have a fav. *giggles*

2005-05-03 [Zardra]: has anyone else seen the anime Loveless... I just saw the first episode, its so cuute ^_^

2005-05-05 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: no thrry i lost my cable and my geuss is it's on cable

2005-05-06 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Boogiepop Phantom, Card Captor Sakura (Japanese)....that's pretty much it for my absolute fav anime list.

2005-05-06 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: lol those r all good ones

2005-05-09 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Yep, yep! I've seen half of Boogiepop Phantom, and am one of the only people I know who isn't freaked out by it. ^^

2005-05-11 [Keeper of Darkness]: Random Story of Every Piece of Nothing it's a work in progress only view if you have a good sense of humor for dissing random characters... (it's nothing personal I love half the characters in it)

2005-05-11 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: XD So it's like a huge cross-over with spoofs?

2005-05-11 [Keeper of Darkness]: yah I guess it has orignal characters too and both authors.

2005-05-12 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: ah.

2005-05-13 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: errm intresting

2005-05-25 [Mia the mermaid22]: Do anyone draw Anime or Manga comics?

2005-05-25 [Happy Camper]: I've started doodling sketches in class, but they're just doodles.

2005-05-25 [inazuma]: I'm currently writing five comics and actually drawing two, but I don't have them scanned in yet. Still need to fix them up.

2005-05-25 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: I'm still on the first page of my Trigun doujinshi, and am planning on starting up my manga this summer.

2005-05-25 [SeishinOkami]: a friend and i started a comic. and for art last year, i created a little side story with my characters for the assignment

2005-05-26 [stuffAEAmade]: I've passed the two-year mark on my own manga and am nearing the 200th page... but my scanner is dead at the moment. =/

2005-05-26 [White Phoenix aka Ryoko]: Oo wowies....

2005-05-26 [stuffAEAmade]: lol, I've been at it so long, it's become a habit, or perhaps an addiction would be a better term... U.U

2005-06-08 [dracos8]: i'd like to do a comic, but i'm out of ideas, and i still need to work on proportions. ^ ^ and several other things with my drawing, but anywayz. what's yer manga called?

2005-06-09 [stuffAEAmade]: Astral Gate. I have a wiki for it - Astral Gate

2005-07-05 [Kai Ken]: hi!

2005-07-07 [Dragonsoul]: Hi! I'll join you all soon!!!!

2005-07-07 [Kai Ken]: cool^^

2005-07-23 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: i draw manga and i'm trying to wok on a whole comic but i have to gain b=more expeience first *pouts* oo how rude hey guys! *rouns around giving everyone wicked huge hughs!*

2005-07-23 [10000 fists]: I draw manga too I'm now working on a new one that I think just maybe my best one I just gotta post the pics though but i got other art on my deviantart link in my house if anyone wants to check it out. Peace!

2005-07-25 [Keeper of Darkness]:

2005-07-26 [Kai Ken]: awww........

2005-07-26 [Keeper of Darkness]: ^_^ I made it in paint

2005-07-26 [dracos8]: thats awesome. ^ ^ i love anime too. but i can't make the cool, blinky things. ^ ^;;

2005-07-26 [Keeper of Darkness]: if you look up 'blinkie maker' on a search engin you can find site where all you have to do is click and drag

2005-07-27 [~Dark Wolf Under The Moon~]: ...................

2005-07-27 [Kai Ken]: ..... wow.... where?